MountainKing Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 I never knew Starter replicas had double elbows. Crazy. Starter & Pro Player replicas both do and all the cresting is usually sewn...while the material is a bit different from the authentic counterparts the jersey is more or less an authentic minus the fight strap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimcutta Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Starter & Pro Player replicas both do and all the cresting is usually sewn...while the material is a bit different from the authentic counterparts the jersey is more or less an authentic minus the fight strap. Under-arm gussets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR68 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 What mountain king said is correct. I dont know team by team with the starters but replicas are made out of air knit and authentics are either ultrafil, mesh or airknit (depends on team and year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAK74 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 I dont know team by team with the starters but replicas are made out of air knit and authentics are either ultrafil, mesh or airknit (depends on team and year). Starter made ultrafil authentics? I thought that was strictly a CCM thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngeloS76 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 What mountain king said is correct. I dont know team by team with the starters but replicas are made out of air knit and authentics are either ultrafil, mesh or airknit (depends on team and year). And depending on which replica jersey you get from Starter, you may even get different types of Star-Knit. I got a white Starter (Panthers) replica for nameplates, and it was made of the "spongy" Star-Knit that we all know and love. I got another Starter replica (Bruins), and that one had a knit that resembled CCM's Air-Knit. So it's a bit of a crap-shoot with those jerseys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFr Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Sidney Crosby 2011 WInter Classic Premier... ie. the concussion jersey. Found on Kijiji really cheap, so I couldn't pass up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brilliant! Posted February 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Two teams wore Starter ultrafil: Montreal and Pittsburgh. Though, I suspect that Montreal just wore regular CCM ultrafil with Starter tags because the ones I've felt always seemed a little heavier and thicker than the Penguins ultrafil. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAK74 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Thanks, I didn't know that. I wonder which years Pittsburgh used ultrafil, and which model jerseys; I only have one Starter Pens authentic and it's a knit, definitely not ultrafil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brilliant! Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I think it was the first half of the 1996-97 season. Because, in the 2nd half, they switched to the nylon mesh ones that the Avalanche, Rangers and Blues also wore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akteon Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Yes the elusive Pens starter mesh - I've only seen a couple ever in eBay. I have a blank black & and so did Victim (he turned his into a Mario) and some else on here had both black & white Pens Starter mesh (cupcakejesus maybe?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabinsurance Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Two teams wore Starter ultrafil: Montreal and Pittsburgh. Though, I suspect that Montreal just wore regular CCM ultrafil with Starter tags because the ones I've felt always seemed a little heavier and thicker than the Penguins ultrafil. Strange. IIRC, ProPlayer made ultrafil jerseys for Montreal in their one and only season 1999-2000. Even their replica jerseys used that material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brilliant! Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I used to think the same thing too until I saw a few game-worn Starter jerseys at one of the more recent MeiGray Expos. There was no mistaking them as anything but ultrafil because I felt them. Very tight and VERY heavy. Great stuff. HOWEVER, I've never owned a Montreal retail Starter jersey so I can't exactly speak to that 100%. Perhaps the retail ones were in that Starter puffy-knit material. I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabinsurance Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 When I was able to get all that close-out Starter stuff, Montreal was the one team I never saw any jerseys of. So I'm with you on that one, I don't know for sure. I do have a Montreal ProPlayer replica, which is ultrafil. I recall reading years ago that they were the one team that PP manufactured that used that type of material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnothaVictim Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 And depending on which replica jersey you get from Starter, you may even get different types of Star-Knit. I got a white Starter (Panthers) replica for nameplates, and it was made of the "spongy" Star-Knit that we all know and love. I got another Starter replica (Bruins), and that one had a knit that resembled CCM's Air-Knit. So it's a bit of a crap-shoot with those jerseys. ... and maybe you might even find something like this: Starter mesh replica Missing shoulder patches, ok... sh** happens. But it has no re-inforced shoulders and elbows. Possibly the weirdest Starter replica I've ever seen. I planning to put Savard on it, does anyone have red mesh for a nameplate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schulzmc Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 1329010366[/url]' post='83732']... and maybe you might even find something like this: Starter mesh replica Missing shoulder patches, ok... sh** happens. But it has no re-inforced shoulders and elbows. Possibly the weirdest Starter replica I've ever seen. I planning to put Savard on it, does anyone have red mesh for a nameplate? wow - awesome jersey find!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnothaVictim Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 When I was able to get all that close-out Starter stuff, Montreal was the one team I never saw any jerseys of. So I'm with you on that one, I don't know for sure. I do have a Montreal ProPlayer replica, which is ultrafil. I recall reading years ago that they were the one team that PP manufactured that used that type of material. I have a white authentic Starter Canadiens. I don't really know if it's retail but according to the look of the tag I guess it is. It's a Made in Canada Ultrafil and feels just like a Penguins El Salvador Authentic. The Canadiens jersey (#8 Recchi "A") is for sale, by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brilliant! Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Yeah, it's nice and heavy, right? Like the old CCM ultrafil. I love that stuff. The game ones I've seen almost seemed heavier than the CCM ones too. I'd love to find one of those. Too bad those teams were just sooooo bad. There's not much besides Koivu that would be worth the money. The Habs' Pro Player ones were definitely the only PP ultrafil jersey there was. The rest were all that nice Nike-style air-knit and then the mesh for the Avs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabinsurance Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I have a white authentic Starter Canadiens. I don't really know if it's retail but according to the look of the tag I guess it is. It's a Made in Canada Ultrafil and feels just like a Penguins El Salvador Authentic. The Canadiens jersey (#8 Recchi "A") is for sale, by the way See, there's something right there: Made In Canada. It could have been that Starter sub-contracted that out to someone like SP, who did work for Nike/Bauer for sure. SP used that material for IHL/AHL jerseys that they made for Bauer and under their own name. I have some Cleveland Barons SP jerseys that are ultrafil, I believe. And a few IHL ones, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainKing Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Starter made ultrafil authentics? I thought that was strictly a CCM thing. Reebok as far as I know had ultrafil as well for a few teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brilliant! Posted February 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 That's true too but those were technically just rebranded CCM jerseys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooten Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I've talked to a couple experts so far, and this one is sort of weird. I have no explanation and little history. It came from the same person as the Bure posted a few posts back. Customization matches all of my CBJ gamers of the same era, the size is right for the player...yet when sold, there was no mention of being game worn, issued of any kind. What little the seller remembers is that she bought it and had Klesla sign it at the 2003 All Star Game (he was in the young stars game. About the only thing that's a little goofy is that the nameplate is sewn on 'inside' the outer seam so you can kind of peel it back a quarter inch or so all the way around. Most, if not all jerseys I have are sewn to the edge all around the nameplate. I think it's obviously not game worn at all, but it's also not something anyone would ever bother to fake or customize. I look forward to learning more about the origin. It could be as simple as jerseys being sold that weekend having the NHLPA patch, but that isn't something I've heard of before. Looking forward to some input from the rest of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAK74 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I wonder which years Pittsburgh used ultrafil, and which model jerseys; I only have one Starter Pens authentic and it's a knit, definitely not ultrafil. I think it was the first half of the 1996-97 season. Because, in the 2nd half, they switched to the nylon mesh ones that the Avalanche, Rangers and Blues also wore. You're right, I found a Pens 1996-97 that's definitely ultrafil: http://www.classicauctions.net/Default.aspx?tabid=263&auctionid=62&lotid=639 Well, I learned a few more things about Starter jerseys; thanks to all for their input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyMusic Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 I've talked to a couple experts so far, and this one is sort of weird. I have no explanation and little history. It came from the same person as the Bure posted a few posts back. Customization matches all of my CBJ gamers of the same era, the size is right for the player...yet when sold, there was no mention of being game worn, issued of any kind. What little the seller remembers is that she bought it and had Klesla sign it at the 2003 All Star Game (he was in the young stars game. About the only thing that's a little goofy is that the nameplate is sewn on 'inside' the outer seam so you can kind of peel it back a quarter inch or so all the way around. Most, if not all jerseys I have are sewn to the edge all around the nameplate. I think it's obviously not game worn at all, but it's also not something anyone would ever bother to fake or customize. I look forward to learning more about the origin. It could be as simple as jerseys being sold that weekend having the NHLPA patch, but that isn't something I've heard of before. Looking forward to some input from the rest of you. That was the same seller I got my St. Pats authentic from Probably youngsters game? ( I say this because all-star jerseys are the ones with the mumps on the hem as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejacket Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Wooten when that jersey was up on eBay I did some research and from what I could find I think it might have been an Upper Deck made jersey. I had found some other examples of jerseys without retail tagging and the NHLPA tag that came from them. And it would not have been from the YSG because it does not have a YSG patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod661 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 definitely a jersey made for upper deck . These were made in limited run for the "young guns" game. Still pretty rare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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