same0717 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Thoughts on this Kovalev NYR Starter Jersey ... http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ALEXEI-KOVALEV-STARTER-SIZE-48-NY-RANGERS-HOCKEY-JERSEY-W-FIGHT-STRAP-/171631130219 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeshy25 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Kovalev is definitely an authentic starter jersey. Kovalev did wear that style in his second stint with the Rangers and stitching looks good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeshy25 Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 Sorry. I meant customization looks correct, not stitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelingman Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Do you think this is a legitimate Reebok Premier jersey? From what I can tell it looks ok. http://www.ebay.com/itm/taylor-hall-reebok-premier-jersey-large-edmonton-oilers-/181638085845?pt=U_Hockey_Fan_Shop&hash=item2a4a793cd5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Yep, that Oilers premiere looks to be a legit replica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelingman Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 As for Reebok Premier jerseys, when did the back Reebok logo switch from the vector logo to the standard "Reebok" name spelled out? I'm only curious as I'm looking at a Vrbata Premier jersey, but I'm not sure if his tenure with PHO was before/after/or coincided with the logo change. Here's the item I was looking at for reference: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Radim-Vrbata-17-Arizona-Phoenix-Coyotes-Reebok-Mens-Jersey-Size-Large-/321641574249?pt=U_Hockey_Fan_Shop&hash=item4ae354ef69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarchelli Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) He was indeed on the team when jerseys still used the vector logo. They used it until 2011-2012, i believe. He was on the coyotes in 09-10 and 10-11. FYI, this was part of his second stint with the coyotes. Edited January 14, 2015 by scarchelli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelingman Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 He was indeed on the team when jerseys still used the vector logo. They used it until 2011-2012, i believe. He was on the coyotes in 09-10 and 10-11. FYI, this was part of his second stint with the coyotes. Thanks for shedding some light on that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarchelli Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 No problem, I learned from the best around here haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsujimoto Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Hey guys, I've been viewing this forum for a while and just decided to sign up. I really like what you guys are doing since it helps people like me spot fake jerseys or fishy items on Ebay. So with that said, do you think this replica Malkin looks legit or is it a fake? http://www.ebay.com/itm/NHL-JERSEY-/321641607690?pt=U_Hockey_Fan_Shop&hash=item4ae355720a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarchelli Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Looks legit to me, but id wait to hear definitively from one of experts here. On a side note, how common are counterfeit replicas? I would assume not at all since a counterfeit authentic costs so little to produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAK74 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 It does appear to be legit. Just fyi, Premiers, as well as other replicas, are almost never faked. It's the authentics, with number sizes and fight straps, which are commonly faked and are the ones you need to be very cautious about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
same0717 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 What is the reasoning for the different arrangement of tags at the neck of these two Starter Jerseys ? The best I can tell from my limited experience both jerseys look legit yet they have the two different arrangements of tags in the neck. As always Thanks! I learn something new everyday that I read this forum. http://www.ebay.com/itm/151544260533 http://www.ebay.com/itm/331442120074 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiggoalie Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 What is the reasoning for the different arrangement of tags at the neck of these two Starter Jerseys ? The best I can tell from my limited experience both jerseys look legit yet they have the two different arrangements of tags in the neck. As always Thanks! I learn something new everyday that I read this forum. Honestly, it just depended on who was on the job that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAK74 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 1996/97 Starter retail authentic jerseys (at least the ones from El Salvador) always have those 3 tags together, but this is the first time I've ever seen one of the tags to the side of the others. You don't usually see the NHL Player tag on a Starter either, so I assume the first one was precustomized at the factory. One thing about Starters is that they stitch the tags through the collar area of the jersey, all the way around each tag with very visible white thread, so it looks like a mess from the back of the jersey with all those stitches visible. I would guess they put the Starter tag on the side so that the rectangular stitch patterns would look more symmetrical when visible from the back. Plus there's no way they could stitch all 4 tags in a single column, because the bottom one would fall where the player name would be, so arranging the tags like they did would also be due to a simple matter of a lack of space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
same0717 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Honestly, it just depended on who was on the job that day. 1996/97 Starter retail authentic jerseys (at least the ones from El Salvador) always have those 3 tags together, but this is the first time I've ever seen one of the tags to the side of the others. You don't usually see the NHL Player tag on a Starter either, so I assume the first one was precustomized at the factory. One thing about Starters is that they stitch the tags through the collar area of the jersey, all the way around each tag with very visible white thread, so it looks like a mess from the back of the jersey with all those stitches visible. I would guess they put the Starter tag on the side so that the rectangular stitch patterns would look more symmetrical when visible from the back. Plus there's no way they could stitch all 4 tags in a single column, because the bottom one would fall where the player name would be, so arranging the tags like they did would also be due to a simple matter of a lack of space. Thank you both! As always you get great answers and can learn so much on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabinsurance Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) 1996/97 Starter retail authentic jerseys (at least the ones from El Salvador) always have those 3 tags together, but this is the first time I've ever seen one of the tags to the side of the others. You don't usually see the NHL Player tag on a Starter either, so I assume the first one was precustomized at the factory. One thing about Starters is that they stitch the tags through the collar area of the jersey, all the way around each tag with very visible white thread, so it looks like a mess from the back of the jersey with all those stitches visible. I would guess they put the Starter tag on the side so that the rectangular stitch patterns would look more symmetrical when visible from the back. Plus there's no way they could stitch all 4 tags in a single column, because the bottom one would fall where the player name would be, so arranging the tags like they did would also be due to a simple matter of a lack of space. This how the Tkachuck that I bought from the Starter liqidation in 2000 came. Notice how close the shoulder patches are to the collar. This is a perfect example of how the 96-97 Starter Coyotes El Salvador retail authentics were made. I have some later El Salvador and Wisconsin made ones that have the shoulders corrected whereas the patches are away from the collar and the back yoke is straighter, and doesn't come to a point in the middle like this one does. Edited January 14, 2015 by rabinsurance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAK74 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Interesting. Those neck tags look like they're sewn on unusually crooked. Must look kind of strange from the back of the jersey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabinsurance Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Interesting. Those neck tags look like they're sewn on unusually crooked. Must look kind of strange from the back of the jersey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAK74 Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Sorry, my bad. They look straight and just fine from the back. Maybe I should have my eyes checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongDistanceHeart Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Sorry, my bad. They look straight and just fine from the back. Maybe I should have my eyes checked. Maybe it's a combination of the jersey being slightly askew in the first photo and the shoulder yoke having a rake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabinsurance Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) It was the angle I placed the jersey when taking the shot. I wanted all the tags visible. The NHLPA tag is slightly crooked. Edited January 14, 2015 by rabinsurance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazermcblazer Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Did someone sew a Meigrey patch onto this jersey themselves? Can't imagine Crosby wearing a 48 with gear on: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-Sidney-Crosby-Pittsburgh-Penguins-2008-Winter-Classic-Mens-48-CCM-/151545754397?pt=U_Hockey_Fan_Shop&hash=item2348d4b31d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Yeah that is incredibly fake. RBK Edge jerseys don't come in 48's. And no player in the NHL would ever wear one, if they did. Even the smallest guys wear 52's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) Also, tag says Meigray Groop. Edited January 14, 2015 by Griff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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