Richter9377 Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) Searched and didn't find any threads about this. I've tried my damnedest to figure out if the jersey Clark Griswold is wearing in Christmas Vacation is a Big or Small block CCM. I've seen movie stills where the elbow patch stitching is showing so it's definitely a Pro Authentic as I've been a collector that long myself and know the replica's back then didn't have the extra elbow material. So...has anyone figured out if it's a small or big block CCM? Ultrafil or Airknit? Would like to make one up, but do it propper. So many cheap copies out there, if I'm going to do it, might as well do it right. Edited December 2, 2017 by Richter9377 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGoCaps Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Not sure myself, but I salute you for wanting to make a perfect Griswold Blackhawks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAK74 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just by looking at a few stills, it seems to me that the crest on the jersey is that weird all-twill one that doesn’t have any chain-stitching. If so, I would guess it would have to be a small-block jersey. And probably ultrafil. (But I still haven’t seen any pictures of the back to know for sure.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Better get it right, you wouldn’t want people making fun of you because it’s not movie-worn accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skid Mark Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Movie was released December 1, 1989 meaning it was probably filmed in '88 before big blocks ever came out. No nameplate. I'd be more impressed if you make the shoes cousin Eddie wore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richter9377 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Thanks for the info guys. The date of the movie should have been an obvious detail. For some reason I always thought it was early 90's The style of crest that LAK74 brought up is definitely a detail I was hoping someone with more knowledge would have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PensJerseys Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 I just saw a guy in a bar last night and kind of got me thinking about making one of these myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Committed Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Good luck! That is a very rare sweater. There is no chain stitching on the crest. I believe this was before the small block “pinhead” version of the 80’s. Think I have seen 2-3 in the past few years. Bob or some of the more experienced Hawks guys might be able to shed more light on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Someone needs to move this over to the “Jersey collecting is a disease” thread. When you need a 100% accurate version of what Chevy Chase playing Clark Griswold wore in a movie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richter9377 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 hour ago, mfitz804 said: Someone needs to move this over to the “Jersey collecting is a disease” thread. When you need a 100% accurate version of what Chevy Chase playing Clark Griswold wore in a movie... I get what you're saying but this jersey is more iconic than say; Happy Gilmore's Bruins jersey, or Wayne and Garths Blackhawks jerseys. So many sh*t versions out there. Now that I know what is likely going into it, it may not be a priority to nail it, especially if I had to outbid a hawks collector into the hundreds just to get a rare shirt to begin with. But I'm not going with anything post 2000 either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey Bob Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 I saw a clip of this last week and was trying to make out the specifics of the jersey. I'd say a movie accurate would need to be white, Ultrafil, pin head with double elbows. I don't recall seeing anything to suggest a fight strap or what the CCM on the hem looked like. (heat pressed, patch, small block embroidery) All said, to make an accurate one you'd spend a lot - and instead of potentially having a high dollar player jersey coveted by fellow collectors - you'd have a boner jersey that wouldn't hold any value among collectors. I can't imagine there are a lot of Christmas vacation collectors that would be so concerned with that level of detail and be willing to pay up for it. There were a rash of big block CCM's done in the early 90's when retail authentics boomed I have 2 in size 48 Ultrafil that I haven't gotten around to stripping as I have other projects, if that is close enough for you shoot me a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAK74 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 The movie jersey crest doesn’t look like a pinhead to me. It looks more like a rare variant crest only used on a couple of gameworns around 88/89 (when the movie was being filmed) which looks like this: The above crest looks more like the movie one than the pinhead does: http://siamtradingpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Clark-Griswold-Vacation-Blackhawks-Jersey.jpg And I’d agree with HockeyBob; if you found one as rare as this, you wouldn’t want to commit a crime against the hobby and screw it up by making a Griswold jersey out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Richter9377 said: I get what you're saying but this jersey is more iconic than say; Happy Gilmore's Bruins jersey, or Wayne and Garths Blackhawks jerseys. So many sh*t versions out there. Now that I know what is likely going into it, it may not be a priority to nail it, especially if I had to outbid a hawks collector into the hundreds just to get a rare shirt to begin with. But I'm not going with anything post 2000 either. 2 minutes ago, LAK74 said: The movie jersey crest doesn’t look like a pinhead to me. It looks more like a rare variant crest only used on a couple of gameworns around 88/89 (when the movie was being filmed) which looks like this: The above crest looks more like the movie one than the pinhead does: http://siamtradingpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Clark-Griswold-Vacation-Blackhawks-Jersey.jpg And I’d agree with HockeyBob; if you found one as rare as this, you wouldn’t want to commit a crime against the hobby and screw it up by making a Griswold jersey out of it. You’re all mentally ill. I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMLFAN Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 I made myself one of these that I wear every Christmas at the family get together. Unlike you psycho’s trying to match what was worn in the movie I just bought a cheapie ultrafil replica and used that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brilliant! Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 Well that just makes you a horrible person who needs to have all his jerseys confiscated. How dare you not spend all your money and effort on something that's not trivial or meaningless at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PensJerseys Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 This might be one of my favorite threads in quite a while. hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richter9377 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hockey Bob said: I saw a clip of this last week and was trying to make out the specifics of the jersey. I'd say a movie accurate would need to be white, Ultrafil, pin head with double elbows. I don't recall seeing anything to suggest a fight strap or what the CCM on the hem looked like. (heat pressed, patch, small block embroidery) All said, to make an accurate one you'd spend a lot - and instead of potentially having a high dollar player jersey coveted by fellow collectors - you'd have a boner jersey that wouldn't hold any value among collectors. I can't imagine there are a lot of Christmas vacation collectors that would be so concerned with that level of detail and be willing to pay up for it. There were a rash of big block CCM's done in the early 90's when retail authentics boomed I have 2 in size 48 Ultrafil that I haven't gotten around to stripping as I have other projects, if that is close enough for you shoot me a PM. 3 5 48 is no bueno. I'm like a 56 minimum. Which leads me to the second bolded which is this jersey would be all for me. Just to wear at Christmas time. Our family, including extended, is in love with the movie, we quote it constantly. So I'm not worried about collector value, other sweaters in my collection definitely. That said, I for sure wouldn't ruin a htf jersey as with what was mentioned. As a collector, I'd be pissed if I saw a Rangers TBTC or White Liberty Authentics that were jacked up with stupid customizations. Edited December 3, 2017 by Richter9377 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 hours ago, TMLFAN said: I made myself one of these that I wear every Christmas at the family get together. Unlike you psycho’s trying to match what was worn in the movie I just bought a cheapie ultrafil replica and used that. 2 hours ago, Brilliant! said: Well that just makes you a horrible person who needs to have all his jerseys confiscated. How dare you not spend all your money and effort on something that's not trivial or meaningless at all! Yeah dude, I didn’t mean you could do it on a replica. That’s just heresy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richter9377 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Why do I feel like I'm being mocked here, for wanting a correct/somewhat correct sweater? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey Bob Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Not by me, Sorry if I came off that way. Just trying to chime in. I can see why you think that though There is a lot of sarcasm on the board, I wouldn't take offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 24 minutes ago, Richter9377 said: Why do I feel like I'm being mocked here, for wanting a correct/somewhat correct sweater? I wouldn’t quite say “mocked”, but you’re talking about minute details of a jersey from a movie. It’s ridiculous enough that we obsess over these details as they pertain to on-ice jerseys, and you’re taking that obsession to another level, which I found amusing. But as I said above, I also love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Committed Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 https://m.ebay.com/itm/Clark-Griswold-Christmas-Vacation-Chicago-Blackhawks-jersey-REAL-REEBOK-sz-L/173010807640?hash=item28483f6b58:g:lOcAAOSwA3dYSxHU Believe this is the customized Triple Threat Sports as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdwsta4 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I always thought it was a late 80's replica since it had the replica style tomahawks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Consider also, its a movie, they may have had several jerseys that they used interchangeably. Those people who go over the film looking for movie mistakes could easily have missed differences that are subtle to everyone other than jersey people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brilliant! Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 I've always thought it was a replica too. Especially with those ugly shoulder patches...but it DOES look to have double elbows: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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