NordFan27 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Has anyone purchased one of these yet? Any comments? I did a search and don't see anyone discussing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo269 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 Id like the Klima gamer… Have no idea how they are going to make them available.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatryk Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 I put a post up about edge jerseys in the wc section. Seems like there will be no retail to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islesfan25 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I put a post up about edge jerseys in the wc section. Seems like there will be no retail to buy. I bet a Game Worn Will be Available... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordFan27 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 This sucks. Those swetares are beautiful. I'm guessing if I buy one from SportsK or Sportshaven I'll get some Indonesian POS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Red Wings Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 No, you're only going to get replicas. Indonesian edges aren't made for retail sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordFan27 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I really need to sit down and study all the nuances pertaining to the jerseys post 6100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedWheelers Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I really need to sit down and study all the nuances pertaining to the jerseys post 6100 All you need to know is that replicas are now complete junk, the material is ultra thin, snags easily, and looks like junk after a couple of washes. No where near the quality that existed pre-Reebok for replicas. The Edge 1.0 material that Reebok came up with when they took over NHL jersey production is also junk. It snags very easily, and many players complained about how the material performed on the ice. A lot of teams switched to Edge 2.0. Same basic jersey, however the arms are cut more generously, and the material is very similar to the air knit that CCM used to make. On top of all this, Reebok recently decided to have the retail authentics outsourced to Indonesia, dubbed "Indo-Edge" on the forum here. I inspected this version at a local shop. It's made of a lesser quality air-knit, but they're still charging a premium price for it. The construction also is not as good as the Canadian-made authentics that we're used to. I compared it to my Red Wings Canadian-made Edge 2.0 and the differences are night and day. Unfortunately, it seems to be getting harder and harder to find Edge 2.0's as the Indo-Edges are taking over. In summary, Reebok sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordFan27 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 That angers me even more. Usually the Wings get these sweaters right. These 14 WC jerseys though are terrible! I really don't undertand why people like them? The 09 WC sweaters made sense, they were based on the 26-27 Cougars, the 91-92 TBTC jerseys were based on the Cougars 27-28 jerseys. They made sense. This thing? No. The numbers? I don't want to be reminded of 82-83. Sorry, not a good time. The DETROIT on top of the Winged Wheel? No. Never happened that way. Looks terrible. The striping? Never appeared in a design that was close to that. It's not even barber pole. That I couldunderstand. But the worst thing? The Winged Wheel is tilted. The Wheel has never and should never be tilted! FFS! You know who does that? Soccer moms who put the logo on the back of their Ford Expeditions. This sweater looks like something Starter made in the 90's. Now that I see the Alumini sweaters I'm even more pissed about the WC design. Finding out I cant buy an Alumni Authentic makes me want to throw things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenAnnesRevenge Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 The wheel used to be put on tilted all the time: http://www.classicauctions.net/Default.aspx?tabid=263&auctionid=6&lotid=293 Heck they didn't even used to centre it: http://www.gamewornauctions.net/products/1979_80_Mike_Foligno_Detroit_Red_Wings_Game_Worn_Jersey_Rookie-5923-145.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordFan27 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 That Yzermen isn't tilted, it just looks like that. Once the wheel replaced DETROIT it has always been level. The wheel is centered but looks off center because of the Wing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenAnnesRevenge Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I don't personally agree, but you can't argue with this: http://www.classicauctions.net/Default.aspx?tabid=263&auctionid=76&lotid=1083 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedWheelers Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Yes, the logo used to be tilted. I have 2 Wings jerseys from the late 70's and the wheel is tilted. Also, the logo for these Winter Classic jerseys was actually used in the 30's, so it's not like they made it up: http://www.nhluniforms.com/RedWings/RedWings07.html I don't mind the font, striping, or Detroit above the logo. These jerseys are supposed to have a vintage look while also being an original design, I think they achieved that here. With that logic, you should also be mad that they put the winged wheel patch on the shoulders of the 09 WC jerseys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordFan27 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Putting the wheel on tilted is an error. Look at the jerseys on the database. The wheel is always straight. It was designed to be used that way. Maybe someone making sweaters in the 70's 80's put it on like that but it doesn't make it correct. Just because it made it to the ice doesn't mean it's correct. Look at the Groux Flyers jerseys. Wrong fonts, weird combos of different companies. The word DETROIT never appeared above the wheel. It doesn't need too! People who barely know hockey see my jacket and instantly know what it is. It has no words, just a small Winged Wheel on the front. Vintage look is fine, if it looks like something vintage. There is a reason Detroit hasn't changed their sweater since they adopted the Red Wings nickname. It's near perfect. The patch on the shoulders is clean and understated. I know it's too each his own but I have spoken with other Wings fans who hate it as much as me. The Alumni's just look better and are historically accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsl135 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 From looking at NHL Uniform Database, the wheel was tilted from 1946-1982. I don't think it was a manufacturer error for 40 years. And I think I have to disagree... if it made it to the ice (and was a team-wide thing), then its correct. You can't just ignore that and write it off as an error if the entire team had the same look for a long time. The wheel looks better straight, yes, but it has been tilted before. This isn't quite the abomination you're making it out to be. At least in my opinion. Its a one time jersey, and they got more creative with it than past traditional designs (even if those designs are awesome). Its not that big of a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordFan27 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Look at team photos from the 50's the wheel, team wide, NEVER tilted as bad as the 14 WC. If it did that was an error in sewing/assembly/what ever you want to call it. Team documents of the time always show it level. Never tilted. My example of Giroux was perfect becase he was on the ice with different fonts than his teamamtes. Errors happen, that doesnt mean its correct just because it made it to the ice. http://pics.classicauctions.net/classicauctions/auctions/35/002.jpg http://www.legendsofhockey.net/LegendsOfHockey/trophies/winners/big/STC1955.jpg http://www.legendsofhockey.net/LegendsOfHockey/trophies/winners/big/STC1936.jpg You can see in those pics how it was all over the place. As a Wings fan this is a big deal to me. It's fugly and doesn't honor the tradition. The Alumni sweater with or with out the shoulder patch looks better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Red Wings Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 I don't mind it. As we have seen in this thread, the winged wheel has had all number of different orientations. If anything this harkens back to the old days where they would just slap the logo across the front and call it good. Agree with you about the script "DETROIT," I didn't like it first time I saw it and I haven't warmed up to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedWheelers Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Nearly every part of the jersey has some basis in Wings history. Having 'DETROIT' above the logo: http://www.nhluniforms.com/RedWings/RedWings03.html The old school wings logo: http://www.nhluniforms.com/RedWings/RedWings06.html The number font: http://www.nhluniforms.com/RedWings/RedWings14.html If I had to criticize the jersey for something, it would be that they tried to do too much in one jersey. I would have preferred they stuck to one time period and ran with it instead of making it a combo of 3-4 different eras. But, I still think the jersey works, I like the colors and the look of it. The Wings jersey is classic and will never (hopefully) change. The WC is one of the few times the team gets to be creative with the jersey design. In '09 they went with a classic. In '14 they decided to get a bit more creative. I don't mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeOiler12 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Has there been any news on how they are going to divide the rosters up for the 2 Alumni Games that are occurring that day? Looks like the first one starts at 1:00pm and the second one at 3:30pm. Curious to see how they divvy up the guys and who plays in which game. Also, I see that FSD will be showing the games locally, but will they be televised nationally in the US by either NBCSN or NHLNetwork? Did anyone outside of Philadelphia get to see the Flyers/Rangers Alumni Game in 2012? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo269 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Also will hockey town authentics have the Alumni gamers for sale? I would love the Klima… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser416 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Not Red Wings related, but Adrian at SLC told me that they'll be running out of blue edge nameplates because they'll be using them up for the Leafs WC and alumni jerseys. Could it mean that the alumni jerseys are edge cut? That'd be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPQuinn Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 NYC TV market...pretty sure we got the alumni game in its entirety. They even had some players mic'd up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMLFAN Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Not Red Wings related, but Adrian at SLC told me that they'll be running out of blue edge nameplates because they'll be using them up for the Leafs WC and alumni jerseys. Could it mean that the alumni jerseys are edge cut? That'd be awesome.It's too late to unveil an alumni game specific jersey so if SLC is using edge material for an edge jersey it'll have to be for ones the Leafs already wear. Since there are two alumni games then maybe the Leafs alum will wear the regular home/roads for the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsl135 Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 It's too late to unveil an alumni game specific jersey so if SLC is using edge material for an edge jersey it'll have to be for ones the Leafs already wear. Since there are two alumni games then maybe the Leafs alum will wear the regular home/roads for the games. The Alumni jersey was announced back when all the other jerseys were... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMLFAN Posted December 19, 2013 Report Share Posted December 19, 2013 Hmmmmmmmm Can't be the regular home/roads then. Leafs may just use the WC jersey for all the games then. Being able to put Gilmour on mine and not be a jersey foul has me very excited to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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