SabreFaninNYC Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 I thought they were a franchise is decent shape but according to this article, they seemed to make some bad deals regarding the arena. What is going on in this league??? http://dispatch.com/live/content/sports/st...I3.html?sid=101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brilliant! Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 Yeah...but let's save the franchise that hasn't made the playoffs in seven years and is just about dead last in attendance...not the one that still draws great crowds, fields a decent team and is following up the first playoff appearance ever with a very respectable 7-5-2 start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabinsurance Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 There are a few things in play here. The main issue is the fact that the people of Franklin county still think small, in that they refuse to do like Cuyahoga and Hamilton county voters did and approve some type of "sin" or hotel tax to fund facilities. There would be no Browns, Indians, Cavs, Reds, and Bengals without public, $$$, support. The sad fact is that private building ownership just won't work, especially in this situation. The other issue is the Shottenstein Center at OSU. That was never supposed to compete with Nationwide for events, but it does. The market is way too small for two full size (17,000+) arenas. Nationwide is at a huge disadvantage when it comes to bidding for events like concerts. Value City Arena is subsidized by the university and the state. In Cleveland, when the Cleveland State University convocation center was built in the late 1980's. the Gunds who owned the Richfield Coliseum lobbied and pulled strings to keep the building small (13,000), with no permanent ice plant and one luxury box. And then a few years later, they got a new downtown arena for their NBA team with all the anemities. As such, the CSU building rarely competes with the Gund Arena/Q. In fact, the Gunds swooped in and took the IHL Lumberjacks away from CSU in 1992. Unless Franklin county changes it's mindset, which I doubt as they were the only one of the 4 metro areas to vote against the casino issue this week that will directly see a benefit, Columbus will always be destined to be a big college town and not a major city. And that's a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomZoom18 Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 There are a few things in play here. The main issue is the fact that the people of Franklin county still think small, in that they refuse to do like Cuyahoga and Hamilton county voters did and approve some type of "sin" or hotel tax to fund facilities. There would be no Browns, Indians, Cavs, Reds, and Bengals without public, $$$, support. The sad fact is that private building ownership just won't work, especially in this situation. The other issue is the Shottenstein Center at OSU. That was never supposed to compete with Nationwide for events, but it does. The market is way too small for two full size (17,000+) arenas. Nationwide is at a huge disadvantage when it comes to bidding for events like concerts. Value City Arena is subsidized by the university and the state. In Cleveland, when the Cleveland State University convocation center was built in the late 1980's. the Gunds who owned the Richfield Coliseum lobbied and pulled strings to keep the building small (13,000), with no permanent ice plant and one luxury box. And then a few years later, they got a new downtown arena for their NBA team with all the anemities. As such, the CSU building rarely competes with the Gund Arena/Q. In fact, the Gunds swooped in and took the IHL Lumberjacks away from CSU in 1992. Unless Franklin county changes it's mindset, which I doubt as they were the only one of the 4 metro areas to vote against the casino issue this week that will directly see a benefit, Columbus will always be destined to be a big college town and not a major city. And that's a shame. I really hope they can get it worked out for the Blue Jackets. I've always maintained that Ohio is a very underrated hockey state. I remember traveling to Ohio to play high school hockey games and then the number of Cyclones fans the Ice would get whenever they'd play the Cincinnati. You guys have some hardcore fans of your teams in that state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akteon Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 I was shocked to find out about this. I thought that the Jackets were doing well especially after last season. I love going to the games up there, the arena district is great. The atmosphere around the arena before and during games is great. I love how well everything is laid out and as for someone coming in from out of town for a game, I have always been able to get in easily, park right across the street, and get out after the game without a hassle. Something that doesn't happen here in Cincy for Bengals games or some Reds games. Honestly if I still lived in Dayton, I'd probably get partial season tickets to the jackets. Everyone I've taken to a game, hockey fan or not, was surprised at how nice the arena district was and how great the facility and fans are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomZoom18 Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I was shocked to find out about this. I thought that the Jackets were doing well especially after last season.I love going to the games up there, the arena district is great. The atmosphere around the arena before and during games is great. I love how well everything is laid out and as for someone coming in from out of town for a game, I have always been able to get in easily, park right across the street, and get out after the game without a hassle. Something that doesn't happen here in Cincy for Bengals games or some Reds games. Honestly if I still lived in Dayton, I'd probably get partial season tickets to the jackets. Everyone I've taken to a game, hockey fan or not, was surprised at how nice the arena district was and how great the facility and fans are. Its possible in the next 5 years my wife and I will move to Indiana and I'd love to go check out a Blue Jackets game. I've seen a picture of the arena, but I've never been by there despite having been through Columbus in the past. I've always been curious to check it out. Hopefully they're still there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabinsurance Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I've been fortunate enough to have had the opportunity to see events at quite a few arenas and stadiums, and Nationwide is one of the finest facilities I've ever seen. It is a great building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFaninNYC Posted November 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I've been fortunate enough to have had the opportunity to see events at quite a few arenas and stadiums, and Nationwide is one of the finest facilities I've ever seen. It is a great building. It looks like a great building to watch a game but ironically, according to that article, the building (and its lease) may be killing the team. I am hoping something will be worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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